From:    "rph" <rph@soe.ucsc.edu>
Subject: Summary of CEFUL: ABET

Dear CE Faculty and CEFUL: ABET attenders,

This afternoon, we had an excellent CEFUL on abet and the computer
engineering program objectives.  I have written up a summary of the
meeting below (if you attended the meeting, and have corrections
please let me know!), and would like to discuss it by e-mail and
that the next faculty meeting.

I would also like to thank all the students who attended this to
make it possible.  It was an exceedingly valuable experience, and
will be a great help to our program.  In the future, how a plan to
have at least one CEFUL a year dedicated to the academic program,
rather than to other topics, the during the next year you may see if
you more as we prepare for abet review.

Richard

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CEFUL: ABET and Computer Engineering Objectives, 4/9/2002

Attending: Carol Atwood (undergraduate advising),  Nathan Bahr
(Bioinformatics major), Alexandra Cary (CE/Math major), Doug Coker
(CS major), Joel Ferguson (Assoc Dean & CE Faculty), Dev
Gopalkrishnan (CE major), Richard Hughey (CE chair),  Eric Perlman
(CE major, IEEE student branch president), Darrell Ross (CE major),
Martine Schlag (SOE Graduate Coordinator & CE faculty), Aaron Tomb
(CE/Philosophy Major).

Topics: Richard Hughey presented an overview of EC 2000 as well as
the draft computer engineering objectives created by the computer
engineering faculty during Winter quarter.  He also discussed the
core exam, and how it is both checking the students and, perhaps
more importantly, checking the delivery of the program. After this
half-hour overview, we discussed the program in general and the
points in turn.

Objective 1.	Ensure a balanced foundation in mathematics, science,
and engineering design.

The group questioned whether "balanced" was correct.  It was pointed
out that	that the engineering design component was very strong, and
that significantly less science was required than engineering design
or mathematics.  In terms of implementation, the mathematics and
science requirements vary greatly in quality depending on
instructor.  The tackle a series 19A and 19B were regarded as
consistent, but the following courses fluctuate in quality,
including 23A, 23B, 27, and CE107.  The possibility of adding more
flexibility to the curriculum to allow the separate differential
equations and linear algebra courses was thought to be an attractive
solution, as the ratio between these come to components in 27 has
been inconsistent.  Students also commented on some inconsistency on
the amount of differential equations in EE70.  The recent change of
19A has a co-requisite for physics 5A was regarded as a further
dilution of the physics curriculum.  Physics is aware of some of
these problems, and is adjusting its staffing of the course
appropriately.  SOE should pay closer attention to the physics
curriculum. EE is considering changes to EE 70, in consultation with
CE.  CE is looking at the mathematics curriculum and CE 107.

The suggested change is to replace "balanced" with "solid".  CE will
need to work within and the outside its program to attain "solid" in
these three areas.

Objective 2.	Offer advanced study in computer hardware and software
technology with a focus on innovative thinking and problem solving.

It is suggested that this be split into two parts, because the
second part (innovative thinking and problem solving) is such an
important objective that it should not simply be "offered".  It
possible wording of this would be:
2a.  Offer advanced study in computer hardware and software
technology.
2b.  Promote innovative thinking and problem solving.

Objective 3.	Prepare students for careers in industry and to pursue
graduate study

This was viewed as speaking to the constituencies of industry and
graduate schools.

 Objective 4.	Provide undergraduate research opportunities.

This was viewed as an excellent objective.  The program needs to do
a better job of explaining how to get research positions, and the
possibility of two-credit undergraduate seminars in research areas
on the horizon was also mentioned.

Objective 5.	Cultivate a commitment to life-long learning and
professional service.

This is a weak objective.  The primary intent among the faculty was
encouraging local service (such as joining the IEEE), and during
CEFUL, it was mentioned that being a reader or tutor is in a sense
professional service, and that is also a tremendously valuable
experience for an undergraduate.  Objective 4 was considered too
important to expand to include "research and teaching"
opportunities.  Instead, objective 5 could be changed to something
like:

Cultivate a commitment to the education of the community.


Objective 6.	Emphasize ethical issues in research and engineering.

This was viewed as an excellent objective, but one that is not
presently being done.  The simple prosecution of academic integrity
cases is not an emphasis on ethical issues.  The 185 curriculum has
at times included discussions of engineering ethics, but the amount
to this coverage varies from course to course.  The emphasis of this
objective should be on discussing the ethical issues, rather than
prescribing a specific ethical standards.  One possibility would be
to work with the philosophy department to create and engineering
ethics course, and require that of our students (assuming that it
also for filled a general education requirements).  The chemistry
course "Science and Human Values" was noted as being very helpful in
these issues, though it is no longer offered.  Bioinformatics has a
required ethics course (Chemistry 80G, Bioethics).

 Objective 7.	Maintain programmatic relevance by incorporating new
ideas and technologies into our curriculum.

It was remarked that the CE program is doing a good job of this at
present, with new courses, curriculum revisions, and so forth.  It
is suggested that the wording become:

Continue to improve the program by incorporating new ideas and
technologies into the curriculum.

Missing Objectives.  The group felt that two other objectives were
missing:  one on teaching quality any other on inter-disciplinary
flexibility.

With respect to teaching quality, students wondered about about
publicly-accessible teaching evaluations.  At present, that would
appear to violate personnel rules with respect to the official
evaluations, but in the past a student organization has put together
coarse evaluations.  Another possibility would be to set up a chat
room site for the SOE where courses, requirements, and different
professors can be discussed among the students as they attempt to
find the best courses.  Another possibility would be for the IEEE or
some other student organization to have a general curriculum
discussion sessions at the start of every quarter.

With respect to inter-disciplinary flexibility, students felt that
it was very important to continue the large range of courses that
can be applied to any major, and the ability to use courses in other
school of engineering majors for the CE major.  This is seen as
particularly valuable for students may decide between majors after
taking a number of courses.

We did not come up with a suggested wording for these two issues,
and may be possible to incorporate them into objective 7 or into
objectives of their own.  This will need further thought.

